Surround Sound Speakers Placement Ceiling Speakers

We are remodeling our basement and are looking to add some in-wall and/or in-ceiling speakers for surround sound for movies and sporting events (thinking 5.1). Our room has 3 walls. Looking from the couch the walls are front, left, and back. Follow our guide to speaker placement if you want to get the very best from every beat of music you listen to. How to position your speakers perfectly. Surround sound. If you have surround. 1-16 of 23 results for 'ceiling speaker placement for surround sound' Amazon's Choice for 'ceiling speaker placement for surround sound' Polk Audio RC60i 2-way Premium In-Ceiling 6.5' Round Speakers, Set of 2 Perfect for Damp and Humid Indoor/Outdoor Placement - Bath, Kitchen, Covered Porches (White, Paintable Grille).

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  • Best Overall:Polk Audio RC80i at Amazon, “With an eight-inch balanced dynamic subwoofer and one-inch dome tweeter for a warm sound that fills an entire room.”
  • Best Installation:Polk Audio 70RT at Amazon, “With a Perfect Fit template for finding the best fit the first time you attempt to install.”
  • Best Budget:Pyle PDIC60T at Amazon, “Delivering a two-way sound that's an incredible value for the price.”
  • Runner-Up, Best Overall:Klipsch CDT-5650-C at Amazon, “Delivering a surprising amount of bass for in-ceiling speakers.”
  • Best Sound:Klipsch’s CDT-5800-C at Amazon, “With some of the best sound money can buy.”
  • Best Design:Bose 742898-0200 at Amazon, “An ideal combination of performance and looks.”
  • Best Theater:Acoustic Audio R191 at Amazon, “A versatile set that takes the home theater experience to an entirely new level.”
  • Best Splurge:Bose Virtually Invisible 791 at Amazon, “A system that works to blanket the entire room with balanced audio performance.”

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Best Overall: Polk Audio RC80i

Manufactured out of moisture-resistant, durable material, the Polk Audio RC80i is a terrific choice for ceiling speakers (added bonus: you can even install them in a sauna or pool area). The eight-inch balanced dynamic subwoofer and one-inch dome tweeter allow for a warm sound that fills an entire room. The adjustable tweeter comes on a 15-degree swiveling mount, so it's easy to make the sound hit exactly where you want. The super easy installation comes right after a prepared hole is made in the ceiling and, with the wires to connect the speaker in place, you need nothing more than a screwdriver to make the RC80i flush with the ceiling. Their white coloring easily helps them blend in and makes them hardly noticeable on a white ceiling, but you’ll never question the sound.

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Best Installation: Polk Audio 70RT

The vanishing series built-in Polk Audio 70RT speakers are outfitted with Polk’s wafer-thin Sheer-grille that magnetically secures the speaker together while protruding a mere 7mm from the ceiling. Installation is easy, thanks to a one-cut, drop-in feature that offers Perfect Fit templates for finding the best fit the first time you attempt to install the 70RT speaker. Past its outstanding fit, the Polk sounds great because of a unique three-way driver that helps deliver full-size speaker performance in a compact package. Also enhancing the audio is a ¾-inch polymer tweeter, a 2.5-balanced driver and a seven-inch dynamic balance subwoofer.

Best Budget: Pyle PDIC60T

Capable of both wall and ceiling installation, the Pyle PDIC60T speakers deliver a two-way sound that's an incredible value for the price. The 6.5-inch design and 8-ohm impedance help boost the sound of the Pyle to a level that makes it ideal for a home theater system. The dual 6.5-inch speaker pairs with a one-inch titanium dome tweeter that’s rated at 250 watts of power and comes complete with a flush mount for the ceiling, as well as a one-inch high-temp voice coil. The included 70-volt transformer handles electricity quite well, while each tweeter offers adjustable direction by sending the sound to a specific area of the room. The bass that’s delivered from the Pyle gets surprisingly low, but really delivers when allowing the total volume to get loud. It’s loud in a way that will have friends questioning where the music is really coming from. The design helps the Pyle blend into a ceiling elegantly or allows you to paint the speaker grille to customize its look to match your decor.

Runner-Up, Best Overall: Klipsch CDT-5650-C

Offering an easy installation and premium sound, the Klipsch CDT-5650-C is a close second for the best ceiling speakers. Featuring a one-inch titanium tweeter and 6.5-inch pivoting cerametallic woofer, the high-performing sound incorporates a gimbal mechanism for directing the sound in the right direction. Connecting the Klipsch to either a 5.1 or 7.1 channel home theater system will get you set up and ready to go with 50 watts of power (200 watts peak) for a sound that has no problem getting quite loud. The audio is both crisp and accurate, with the highlights being the mids and lows. There's also a surprising amount of bass, which is unexpected for in-ceiling speakers. The minimal sound distortion at high volumes is another surprising result, which makes the Klipsch ideal for watching Blu-ray or Netflix movies at a high enough volume to feel like you’re right in the action. With the woofer capable of shifting 15 degrees in any direction and the 360-degree rotation of the tweeter, you'll have total flexibility with the Klipsch (and that’s a great thing).

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Best Sound: Klipsch’s CDT-5800-C

To be blunt, Klipsch’s CDT-5800-C in-ceiling speakers have some of the best sound money can buy. Powered by a one-inch titanium tweeter and an eight-inch pivoting cerametallic woofer, the Klipsch offers a high-performance and beautiful sound system that’s worth every penny. While an in-ceiling speaker is often limited by its fixed location, Klipsch’s adjustable controlled dispersion and horn-loaded technology help direct sound exactly where it needs to go with minimal effort and maximum results. Both treble and bass sound crisp and loud to match any kind of movie or music. It's available in white, but the speaker grille can be painted to match the color of any room.

Best Design: Bose 742898-0200

Seamlessly blending into the ceiling, the Bose 742898-0200 speakers are an ideal combination of performance and looks. The five-inch woofer and two strategically positioned ¾-inch tweeters offer a high-quality sound that is hardly matched by competitive in-ceiling speakers. Boosting the audio performance of Bose’s unique and exclusive Stereo Everywhere works to cover an entire room with stereo sound without any drop-offs. Beyond the sound is the visual appeal of Bose’s design. The near-bezel-less design and construction enables the speaker virtually disappear once installed into the ceiling. Available in white, the Bose speaker system adds an easily-paintable grille for matching any home decor and maintaining the invisible look and feel no matter your ceiling color. Additionally, installation is a snap, thanks to the integrated dogleg clamps and magnetically attached grille that drops right into a pre-cut ceiling hole with ease.

Best Theater: Acoustic Audio R191

Offering power between 20 to 200 watts per speaker, the Acoustic Audio R191 delivers a versatile set that takes the home theater experience to an entirely new level. The polypropylene 5.25-inch woofers, 12mm soft dome tweeter and 8ohms of impedance pool together to make the R191 sound crisp and clean. The paintable frame and grille offer both easy installation and the flexibility to change up the look to match your home’s coloring. The low-profile housing is designed to be easy to install with cutout templates for helping to discover the exact sizing that needs to be cut from the ceiling. The R191 has an all-weather design that works both indoors and outdoors.

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The Bose Virtually Invisible 791 offers a high-quality sound that is hard to beat. The lone seven-inch woofer pairs with two strategically positioned one-inch tweeters for incredible sound. And there's also Bose’s signature Stereo Everywhere technology for balancing the sound in an entire room. Unlike competitors that can only focus their ceiling speakers in one direction, the Bose system works to blanket an entire room with balanced audio performance. And the result is both rich and clear low-end frequencies and strong high-end frequencies. The easy installation pairs with an ultra-slim bezel that makes the Bose model drop right into the ceiling (via a precut hole) and is secured in its position with dogleg clamps, drawing as little attention as possible. The detachable speaker grille can be removed and painted to better fit a room decor.

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post #1 of 28Old01-23-2011, 07:50 AM - Thread Starter
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So I am a total rookie when it comes to setting up a surround sound that is actually somewhat worth of being considered acceptable (other than the Sony HTIB that I have had for 10 years now). Here is my dilemma. I live in a townhouse with fire rated wall between the units (I live in the middle). It appears that the only way that I can get the speakers 'hidden' for my living room home theater system would be to put in-ceiling speakers in for the fronts and rears. I have decided that the Pioneer VSX-1020-k receiver will be powering all of it, with the 6 1/2' in-ceiling speakers from monoprice for the surrounds (my inlaws have them and they are amazing). I would then have to figure out a wall mounted center channel which would go below my TV, but above the fireplace that the FIOS box, Soony Blu-ray, and receiver will sit. I know that this isnt the IDEAL set-up, especially since the in-celing fronts will be about 16 feet away from the listening position (couch will be on the other side of the room), but I am hoping the set-up feature for the receiver with its mic can correct any audio issues I may have. Do you all think this will be a problem, with having the in-ceiling speakers for the fronts 16' away, and having the rears almost right above me?
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I am strongly against using in ceilings for the front sound stage.. For surrounds it's ok nut the front sound stage to me must face the seating area
Might want to try some wall mounted speakers for the front. Axion makes some good thin ones
http://axiomaudio.com/wallspeakers.html
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Trying to make the look as clean as possible. That is why I am looking into in-ceiling as in-wall is not an option. Do you think the receiver could set-up the speakers to sound good even though they are in-ceiling?
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Trying to make the look as clean as possible. That is why I am looking into in-ceiling as in-wall is not an option. Do you think the receiver could set-up the speakers to sound good even though they are in-ceiling?

Honestly I don't think it could work well enough to recommend as you are sitting so far away from the tv
Look at the thin on wall speakers they don't take up much space and you with be far far better offPlacement
http://axiomaudio.com/wallspeakers.html
Minimumly the center needs to be facing the seating area directly above or below the tv
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You could consider something like the Def Tech UIW Reference RCS II ceilings which have the speakers mounted at an angle within the enclosure. I've also seen other ceilings which let you change the angle of the speakers but can't recall the names off hand. Hope that helps some.. good luck.
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I am in total agreement with crazyrob that ceiling speakers are a really, really bad idea for any of the front speakers. Even for surrounds and rears, ceiling speakers are at best questionable (but sometimes no other choice).
Your front speakers should be at ear level. If I was you, I would consider any other possible solution to accomplish this. Did I understand your original post to say that your TV will be above the fireplace? Another idea that is really not recommended, but I know that the way homes are designed these days it is hard to get away from this. (We had to custom design our living room to get the fireplace out of the way.)
Your comment 'but I am hoping the set-up feature for the receiver with its mic can correct any audio issues' is probably wishful thinking. With the speakers in the ceiling, there is really nothing that can correct that problem - you see straight ahead and you hear from the ceiling. Even your brain will have a problem with that.
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Let me clarify. The TV will be over the fireplace, however it is electric (looks outstandingly real) and is really just for show, and we dont use it EVER for heating, so damaging the TV wont be an issue. My wall that it will be on is 10feet wide.
I do have a change to my plan: What I just talked to my wife about is that I am going to build out 2 'columns' on either side of the tv in the corners, 30' wide x 12' deep, from floor to ceiling. I am also going to build a 'header' that will extend from both columns along the ceiling and that way, I can get an in-wall center channel directly above the TV, and 2 in-wall speakers firing directly towards the sitting area. This will solve all my issues and for the fronts, still putting the rears in the ceiling directly above/slightly behind the sitting area. All I need is some 2x4's, some sheetrock, and my air tools. Also need to relocate some electrical as the boxes are tucked into the corners, but that is all easy as I am a contractor as well. I should be all set to go now.
The only question that I have left is, the center channel should go between the front surrounds correct? If I have the fronts about 4 feet up form the floor, and the center channel above the TV at around 7.5', will it sound weird, or wont I notice it from that far away?
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I suggest you inform yourself here
http://www.dolby.com/consumer/setup/index.html
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The only question that I have left is, the center channel should go between the front surrounds correct? If I have the fronts about 4 feet up form the floor, and the center channel above the TV at around 7.5', will it sound weird, or wont I notice it from that far away?

Yes, the center channel speaker goes either directly below, or above the TV. It is very typical that the three front speakers are not all the same height above the floor. My center channel speaker is 6 1/2' above the floor with my L&R speakers being standard towers (~4' tall). I do have my center channel speaker tilted down so it points at my head level at our main seating area. (BTW - - The left and right front speakers are not called surrounds, that term is reserved for speakers 4 & 5.)
(I see that crazyrob425 beat me to the send button. The Dobly site is excellent. THX & DTS have very similar sites.)
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I checked out that site, but honestly that is stuff that I sort of already knew and didnt really say anything about above or below and the relationship with the fronts. Thanks for the link though. The center channel (in-wall) that I am also going to get from monoprice doesnt tilt to aim, so I am going to have to mount it at an angle to get it to fire directly towards me, which should be just a matter of making a box to mount it to, with a slight angle built it. It will be about 2 feet higher than the fronts, but I can angle all of it over the 20 foot distance that you probably wont be able to decern any difference. I will just move the fronts up a little (say around 5' off the floor) and all should be good. Thanks for all your help.
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I am in total agreement with crazyrob that ceiling speakers are a really, really bad idea for any of the front speakers. Even for surrounds and rears, ceiling speakers are at best questionable (but sometimes no other choice).

I totally agree with the others that are in total agreement.
I doubly agree with regard to the fronts.. DON'T do it. You might be able to slither by with the rears in the ceiling but not the fronts.
My neighbors have a nice house, maybe 10K sq/ft or so. Living room has 14' ceilings or something near that. (they have an elevator... )
Anyway, I was over there once and she got ALL excited..'come in here and listen to the surround sound'
Turns out it was all in ceiling. As it happened, the local news was playing and the weather man was talking. The TV was in front of me yet the voices were coming from above.
It was rather erie. Much like the Voice of God from above, telling me it WAS going to rain tomorrow..
Knowing the budget they spent on their land and house, it would not surprise me that they put 10/15K into this setup. Frankly, I would not pay $500 for what I heard.
I think you could probably get away with the REARS being in the ceiling and some ceiling speakers can also be aimed. Just give it some deeper thought first regarding the front speakers. Better yet.. if you can get to my neighborhood, maybe I could get you an audition over there and you could hear first hand what I'm talking about.
Either that would be enough to make you committed to avoiding in ceilings for the front or, you put more importance on asthetics than the sound. (which is perfectly acceptable as long as you understand/accept the trade-offs)
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In ceiling speakers sound horrible no matter the brand nor price, too hollow!
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One thing to think about if you're planning to buy an in-wall center is that most are designed to fit in between wall studs. If your dwelling is a modern type with drywall and studs every 16' you're a bit limited to where you can install the center, unless you plan on cutting into studs.
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I also agree that in-ceilings for the front 3 are the last resort.
But I'm using in-ceilings for my side and rear surrounds and they sound great.
Mine are the Mirage Omnican 6.
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One thing to think about if you're planning to buy an in-wall center is that most are designed to fit in between wall studs. If your dwelling is a modern type with drywall and studs every 16' you're a bit limited to where you can install the center, unless you plan on cutting into studs.

That is why I am making my own wall to house the fronts and center! Got to love the carpentry skills! The center that I am going to get from Monoprice is a bit wider than 16', but I can account for that when I make the framing up for the 'soffet'. I have decided that only the rears are going to be in-ceiling because that is the only option I have with the type of wall and location that the sofa HAS to be in. If the back of the sofa is about 5 inches off the wall, would it be best to have the in-ceiling speakers aiming straight down, or should I try to aim the speakers so that it bounces off the rear wall so accoustically it seems that the sound is coming from in back of you as much as possible?
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That is why I am making my own wall to house the fronts and center! Got to love the carpentry skills! The center that I am going to get from Monoprice is a bit wider than 16', but I can account for that when I make the framing up for the 'soffet'. I have decided that only the rears are going to be in-ceiling because that is the only option I have with the type of wall and location that the sofa HAS to be in. If the back of the sofa is about 5 inches off the wall, would it be best to have the in-ceiling speakers aiming straight down, or should I try to aim the speakers so that it bounces off the rear wall so accoustically it seems that the sound is coming from in back of you as much as possible?

I think the less sound you have bouncing around the better, but someone else should weigh in on this.
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That is why I am making my own wall to house the fronts and center! Got to love the carpentry skills! The center that I am going to get from Monoprice is a bit wider than 16', but I can account for that when I make the framing up for the 'soffet'. I have decided that only the rears are going to be in-ceiling because that is the only option I have with the type of wall and location that the sofa HAS to be in. If the back of the sofa is about 5 inches off the wall, would it be best to have the in-ceiling speakers aiming straight down, or should I try to aim the speakers so that it bounces off the rear wall so accoustically it seems that the sound is coming from in back of you as much as possible?

'That is why I am making my own wall to house the fronts and center! Got to love the carpentry skills!' Must be nice, I can draw a straight line with a very good ruler (most of the time).
Just to be clear; you mentioned 'rears' above. Do you mean speakers 6 & 7 of a 7.1 system, or are you really referring to 'surrounds' (speakers 4 & 5)? (These terms are often confused.) Surrounds should be mounted at 90 to 110 degrees from your main listening area, and rears should be mounted directly behind the seating area. If you are mounting your surrounds on your side walls, and rears as you mentioned directly above your seating area, then IMO speakers 6 & 7 will not bring much to the party unless your room is very wide. With your carpentry skills you probably do not have much to lose by installing speakers 6 & 7 above your seating area, but I would not expect to hear a great difference between a 5.1 & a 7.1 speaker array.
I will use my speaker array as an example of how NOT to do a 7.1 system. My 6 & 7 channel speakers are ceiling mounted (long story on how that happen), and they are mounted about 2' behind my two main seats, but are about 15' apart (almost directly above my stand-mounted surround speakers). The ceiling speakers are very poor to begin with, and since they are not properly located (should be directly behind my two seats about 2 -4' apart), I cannot even tell if they are on or not. For several reasons I am stuck with this poor arrangement, so really I have a 5.1 system with 7 main speakers.
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Make sure you contact monoprice and get the actual speaker parameters so you can build proper enclosures for each model within the wall.
A recommendation I make to most of my customers is to put your surround sound system in an unused bedroom (if you have one). The room may be smaller than the family room/great room but the performance will most likely be superior for both picture and sound.
I would NEVER place my primary TV over a fireplace. The TV is too high, speaker placement options are usually limited and the sound usually suffers (especially if you have 12' or higher ceilings. If you want it so you can view from the kitchen with background audio go for it. I still don't like placing TV's over fireplaces because you end up with two focal points.
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I put my TV over our fireplace..a project we did about two years ago. Best decision we made. Love the height of the TV and all the viewing locations it creates being that high.
Also, putting the TV over your fireplace creates ONE focal point in the room. If you were to put the TV on another wall..there is your second focal point of the room!
Keep with your idea and put it where you want..just make sure you test the height with a piece of cardboard, etc..
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I put my TV over our fireplace..a project we did about two years ago. Best decision we made. Love the height of the TV and all the viewing locations it creates being that high.
Also, putting the TV over your fireplace creates ONE focal point in the room. If you were to put the TV on another wall..there is your second focal point of the room!
Keep with your idea and put it where you want..just make sure you test the height with a piece of cardboard, etc..
Just because I've done this for 20 years doesn't make always right. You are correct that the sight lines can be excellent, especially with today's open floor plans. For a primary home theater/surround sound location it's awful.
Out of hundreds of jobs (flat panel specific) I have yet to see one that wouldn't have performed better in an unused bedroom. I say this for a number of reasons.
1) lower tv height = easier to watch
2) less ambient light = better image
3) better speaker locations = better sound
4) improved sound isolation (close the door/heavier door/solid door/sealed door = better sound & less likely to disturb/annoy other family members
TV's often take away from the cozy, relaxed environment that a fireplace creates. It's almost like going to a theater to watch a movie in the lobby/concession area. Convenient yes, ideal no.
There are a number of other reasons.
At the end of the day I do what my customers request. Additionally, I always recommend what will perform best first. I provide alternatives that may not have been considered. I rarely tell a client not to do it (unless for safety or cost reasons). I simply think it's RARELY the best choice though it's always an obvious one.
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My TV is a 47' Vizio 1080P LCD. The center of the TV is about 5.5 feet above the floor. The TV is also tilted down so the TV is totally 'flat' to the viewing area.
Sptrout: The rears that I am talking about are speakers 4 and 5. This will only be a 5.1 set-up, and Zone 2 on my new pioneer VSX-1020 will be for outdoor speakers (once I get a deck on the back of the house). They will be 8 feet above the floor in the ceiling (5 feet above the listeners ears) and about a foot to 2 feet behind the listener. I am going with the 8' in-ceiling 2-way speakers from monoprice, their 8' in-wall's for the fronts, and their 5 1/4' center channel for, well, the center channel! The room is about 20 feet by 10 feet, and is open almost the whole side with the dinning room. I dont have any room to put the rears directly behind me, hence the in-ceiling route that I have to take. The spread of the in-ceiling (rears) and in-walls (fronts) will be about 9 feet. The in-ceilings will also be about 110 degrees to the sides from the listener, just a lot higher.
I have listened to the monoprice speakers, and bang for the buck they are simple outstanding. Of course anything is better that the SONY HTIB that I have been running. My in-laws just bought the 8' inwalls for their house, and they blew me away when I heard them. Are they the best speakers I have ever heard, no---my friends B&W's were, but I am a cop and dont make that kind of money! I am not an audiophile, so I dont see spending that kind of money. I mean, even with building the columns and soffet, I am looking at under $600 for the whole system (speakers, CL2 rated 14AWG wire, and amp). This is also not our dream home, and dont plan on staying here for more than another 5-7 years, so I am not going to invest huge sums of money into something the next owner may not give a [email protected] about.
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Border411, it looks to me that you have your system well designed and thought out, so you should be happy with the results. As with most of us, the actual room layout has the final say in how we can design our HT speaker array.
Remember that speakers 4 & 5 are called surrounds not rears. (Actually, all speakers, with the exception of the subwoofer, are now called satelllites by many, but that is another story..) Several days ago I got in on a thread where the OP was writing 'rears' (really meaning surrounds) and that misstatement took the whole thread off in the wrong direction.
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Thank you good sir! So rears are 6 and 7 then?

Yep! I guess that speakers 4-7 are all really surrounds, but to keep things a little less confusing, 6 & 7 are referred to as the rear speakers.


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Speakers 5 and 6 are side surrounds and speakers 6 and 7 are rear surrounds.
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I suggest you inform yourself here<br><a href='dolby.com/consumer/setup/index' target='_blank'>dolby.com/consumer/setup/index</a>
This URL is pretty old
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This thread is from 2011 so of course the link is old in 2015
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This thread is from January 23, 2011. We are in 2015 so of course that link is old..
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Necro of the week. Good thread though, insightful all around
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